SEASON 11 INCIDENT REPORTS

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Re: SEASON 11 INCIDENT REPORTS

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JoshM wrote: October 21st, 2014, 7:37 pm All protests have been handled by the Replay Review Committee. Check post above for updated info on the incidents. Also, here is a link for the Season 11 Bracket Series: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... sp=sharing
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Re: SEASON 11 INCIDENT REPORTS

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JoshM wrote: October 24th, 2014, 8:36 pm Race 8 10/23/14


Lap 11: #07 into #128. #07 served his 4 tire stop.


Lap 29: While trying to avoid a big checkup, #99 makes contact w/ #05. The contact knocks #05 into the wall but no wreck occurs. #017 slows up to avoid further contact and is hit by #43. The contact between the #017 and #43 caused the incident, so incident is put on #43. Also, #7 is NOT charged w/ driving thru a wreck as he went down to the grass to avoid it but could not avoid a car spinning down the track in front of him. #43 did not serve his penalty and is penalized 1 lap in the final results.


Lap 39: Another checkup occurs and brings out a caution. I reviewed this from multiple cars and camera angles. Everyone did a great job trying to avoid each other but some cars slowed faster than others, and that is what caused the caution. I am going to have to call this a "racin' deal" as there was no ill-advised move to start the checkup, and all drivers behind did their best to slow and avoid the checkup. No incident charged and no 4-tire pit stop required for any driver.


Lap 48: #009 into #56. #009 served his 4 tire pit stop.


Lap 62: #71 into #2. #71 served his 4 tire pit stop. There was also a pass that occurred between #89 and #16 where #89 got 2 of his tires under the white/yellow line. Passing under the white/yellow lines to advance your position is illegal, but after reviewing the replay, it was clear that #89's move was to avoid contact as #16 was 11mph slower to due contact with another driver and both drivers made moves to avoid wrecking into each other. Because the move by #89 was to avoid wrecking a car that was off the pace at that moment, I do not consider this an illegal move.



DNQs for next week are: #39, #044 and #088

Get 6 Incidents charged against you then you will be on a 1 & park.

1 --- #4, #7, #10, #20, #25, #37, #43, #49, #66, #77, #89, #90, #95, #96, #07, #08, #003, #009, #015, #018, #024, #088, #102, #128, #162, #188
2 --- #2, #16, #33, #54, #044, #103
3 --- #71
4 --- #28
5 ---
6 ---



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Re: SEASON 11 INCIDENT REPORTS

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timoshark1 wrote: November 1st, 2014, 9:36 pm Race 9 10/30/14


Lap 4 #12 Gary Mingus moves up into wall avoiding contact with the #39 hitting the wall and coming down the track causing an incident.
The #12 correctly served his penalty.
The #90 Wayne Pribnow will be penalized 1 lap for racing into a wreck.


Lap 10 #083 Dave Little bumps the #56 into the #71 causing a multi-car incident.
The #083 correctly served his penalty.

Lap 16 #083 slides up in the tri-oval hitting the #07 causing a multi-car incident.
The #083 retired as this was his 2nd incident.

Lap 21 #90 Wayne Pribnow bumps the #20 into the #65 and #095 causing an incident.
The #90 did not correctly serve his penalty and will be penalized 1 lap in the finishing order.


Lap 44 #25 Brian Bell slows drastically while still on the racing surface trying to enter the pits leading to contact with the #12. Although this did not bring out a caution, this will be charged as an incident. #25 did not do a penalty drive through and will be penalized a lap in the final standings.


Lap 53 #28 Goed Quinn bumps the #028 spinning him to the infield. The #028 does a remarkable job of driving trying to save it while keeping his car from coming back up onto the track in front of the leaders. Although the caution did not come out, this is an incident on the #28.
The #28 correctly served his penalty.


Lap 51 #33 Tony Fox bounces off the wall on turn 4 exit hitting the #018 causing a multi-car incident.
The #33 correctly served his penalty.


Lap 59 #054 Robby Neises slows drastically causing contact with the #60 after exiting the pits. This is an incident under caution.
The #054 correctly served his penalty.


Lap 63 #07 Rick Moon is in the second line of racing and moves down slightly causing contact with the #49 not knowing that the #128 had ducked underneath the #49. The #128 made a legal move and given the position of the cars, the #49 did the right thing by holding his line to give the #128 room. Given the position of the cars there is no way the #07 had any idea the #49 had no room to maintain the low line. With that being said, this will be scored as a racin deal. No penalties issued.


DNQ's next race #088, #60, #56 and the #083

1 and park next race #083


Get 6 Incidents charged against you then you will be on a 1 & park.

1 --- #4, #7, #10, #12, #20, #37, #43, #49, #66, #77, #89, #95, #96, #07, #08, #003, #009, #015, #018, #024, #054, #088, #102, #128, #162, #188
2 --- #2, #16, #25, #54, #044, #083, #103
3 --- #33, #71, #90
4 ---
5 ---#28
6 ---



I saw some incredible racing as well as guys respecting their competitors. With 42 starting I thought it was on HELL OF A RACE!!!!!!


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Re: SEASON 11 INCIDENT REPORTS

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JoshM wrote: November 8th, 2014, 11:19 am Race 10 11/6/14


Lap 18 #65 into #10 while entering pit road. Caution did not come out and #65 did not do a drive-thru the next lap, so he is penalized 1 lap in final standings.


Lap 19 #96 into #56 while entering pit road. Caution did not come out so #96 served his drive-thru on the next lap.


Lap 23 #56 bumps #96 and they both spin. #56 charged w/ incident and served his penalty.


Lap 30 #27 hooks #96. #27 parked.


Lap 31 #77 spins #13 on pit road. #13 was in the far right lane and dropped his speed 10+ mph before turning left into his pit stall, so no penalty is charged.


Lap 35 #77 checks up and is turned by #92. #77 charged w/ incident. #77 did not serve his 4 tire pit stop and is penalized 1 lap in the final standings.


Lap 48 #51 gives a bad bump to #009. #51 parked.


Lap 53 #128 into #20. #128 did not serve his 4 tire pit stop and is penalized 1 lap in the final standings.


Lap 57 #009 cuts down on #99. #009 served his 4 tire pit stop.


Lap 62 #017 into #77 and #128. #017 served his 4 tire pit stop.
ALSO, while racing back, #088 cuts down on #08, causing a secondary incident. #088 did not serve his 4 tire pit stop and is penalized 1 lap in the final standings.


Lap 66 #188 into #33 coming to the start/finish line. Because no finishing positions were altered, no penalties will be charged.



DNQ's next race #08, #015, #018 and the #083

1 and park next race #083

Get 6 Incidents charged against you then you will be on a 1 & park.

1 --- #4, #7, #10, #12, #20, #27, #37, #43, #49, #51, #56, #65, #66, #89, #95, #07, #08, #003, #015, #017, #018, #024, #054, #102, #162, #188
2 --- #2, #16, #25, #54, #77, #96, #009, #044, #083, #088, #103, #128
3 --- #33, #71, #90
4 ---
5 ---#28
6 ---


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We had 2 cautions in the first 47 laps and 5 cautions in the final 18 laps. The week before that, we had another 5 cautions in the final 22 laps. What good are green flag pit stops and great 3-wide racing if we only do it in the first half of the race, and then crash everyone in the second half of the race? If these poor finishes and levels of respect don't improve, we won't have to worry about people needing to qualify their way in much longer. This will be dealt with, one way or another. I'm the biggest fan of hard 3 and 4 wide racing, but there is a fine line between fun aggressive driving versus bonzai moves, rooting people out of their lines, and a "second place is the first loser" mindset. This series has done so well because of the fantastic finishes where everyone has a legitimate chance and finishes with a clean racecar. If the second half of these races are nothing more than drivers getting wrecked, fixing damage, and riding around under caution, we will be back down to 15-20 car counts in no time.

Lastly, there was a mistake in our rules section. I take the blame for that and have corrected it. During several restarts, drivers were taking it 3-wide as soon as the green came out. The rule is there is no attempt to pass high or low until you have crossed the start/finish line. The only exception is if a person is damaged and tells you to pass him at the start, or to avoid a major checkup because someone missed a shift. Just because a car doesn't get as good a restart as you does not count as missing a shift. The difference between the two is pretty easy to see, so do not try to take advantage of it or penalties will be issued.
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Re: SEASON 11 INCIDENT REPORTS

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timoshark1 wrote: November 17th, 2014, 7:27 pm Race 11 11/13/14



Lap 13 #12 Gary Mingus moves up into #54.
#12 correctly served his penalty.


Lap 26 #065 Larry Yeager Jr. moves down making contact with the #102.
The #065 correctly served his penalty.


Lap 31 #5 David Day gives a bad bump to the #128 causing a multi-car incident.
#5 correctly served his penalty.


Lap 41 #71 Brian Orto slides up into the #56 causing a multi-car incident.
#71 correctly served his penalty.


Lap 45 #065 Larry Yeager Jr. bumps the #5 causing him to lose control.
#065 did NOT park himself. Scoring will be stopped and he will be suspended for the race on 11/20/14


Lap 53 #60 Bart Fuerstenberger blows a motor. We will not charge an incident being this was a mechanical failure. #28 Gord Quinn will be given an incident for racing into a wreck.
#28 correctly served his penalty



Lap 65 There was an incident involving the #56, #51 and #088.
After reviewing this, the #51 and the #088 were pushing the #56 up to the #73. The #56 tried to avoid making hard contact with the #73 and basically was put in a no win situation. I'm gonna call this a dual fault incident on the #51 and the #088. They will be moved back in the finishing order given this was leading into the final lap.

DNQ's for the next race: #099, #73,#56 and the #083.
Parked next week: #065
1 and parks for next week: #083 and #28


Get 6 Incidents charged against you then you will be on a 1 & park.

1 --- #4, #5, #7, #10, #20, #27, #37, #43, #49, #56, #65, #66, #89, #95, #07, #08, #003, #015, #017, #018, #024, #054, #102, #162, #188
2 --- #2, #12, #16, #25, #51, #54, #77, #96, #009, #044, #065, #083, #103, #128
3 --- #33, #90, #088
4 --- #71
5 ---
6 --- #28



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Re: SEASON 11 INCIDENT REPORTS

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JoshM wrote: November 22nd, 2014, 2:40 pm Race 12 11/20/14



Lap 2 #128 into #088. #128 served his penalty.


Lap 7 #72 loses a gear and causes a checkup on the restart. #20 goes high to avoid the slowed cars ahead of him. Per the rules, a driver is allowed to make a racing move before the S/F line ONLY IF a driver ahead botches the restart or loses a gear. However, #20 never slows down until he gets into the back of #017, causing an accident. While #20 is not charged with jumping the restart, he IS charged with the incident that occurred. #20 served his penalty.
ALSO, #188 jumped the restart. This was further back in the field and had nothing to do with the checkup at the front of the field. #188 is penalized 1 lap in the final standings for jumping the restart.


Lap 13 #95 blows a motor. #710 makes an erratic move to avoid #95 and causes an accident. After reviewing with other admins, we decided to call this a "racin' deal" as #710 did slow and try to avoid an incident. While this wreck should have been EASILY avoidable, no incident will be charged to any driver.


Lap 19 #02 hooks #08 on the restart. #02 served his penalty.


Lap 24 #27 and #20 get together on the restart. While #16 gave #27 a bump, this was not the reason for the wreck. #27 moves up almost a full lane where he makes contact with #20, causing the incident. #27 charged w/ the incident and was wrecked out of the race.


Lap 37 Debris caution; no incidents charged.


Lap 57 #128 loses control of his car and spins in the tri-oval. This was #128's second incident and he parked.


Lap 63 #10 gets into #89. #10 served his penalty.


Lap 63 #49 cuts down on #96, unaware they were 3-wide. #49 did not serve a drive-thru penalty and is scored EOLL.


Lap 63 Coming to the yellow to end the race, #1 makes a clean block on #51. #51 checks up and gets bumped by #56. After reviewing with other admins, it was determined all drivers raced within the rules, and are therefore calling this a "racin' deal." No incident charged.



During the driver's meeting this Sunday at 3pm EST, we will be announcing a change to the points system for next season as well as some rules changes on blocking, # of incidents caused, "racin' deals", over-aggressive driving, and a few other issues that have been occurring this past year. Please be patient with us while we try to get the racing back to the way it used to be where green flag racing and green flag pit stops were the norm. I'll make no other comments about this race as I'm still speechless after reviewing the incidents that occurred.



Get 6 Incidents charged against you then you will be on a 1 & park.

1 --- #4, #5, #7, #37, #43, #56, #65, #66, #89, #95, #02, #07, #08, #003, #015, #017, #018, #024, #054, #102, #162, #188
2 --- #2, #10, #12, #16, #20, #27, #25, #49, #51, #54, #77, #96, #009, #044, #065, #083, #103
3 --- #33, #90, #088
4 --- #71, #128
5 ---
6 --- #28





DNQ's for the next race: #16, #1 (will need to change his # for next week), #56, #128 and #083.
1 and parks for next week: #083 and #128




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Re: SEASON 11 INCIDENT REPORTS

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JoshM wrote: December 6th, 2014, 3:53 pm Race 13 12/4/14


There was a restart after a lap 2 crash caused by #71. I made a mistake on the rules and told #71 he would restart in his original starting position. The penalty SHOULD be for him to start in the back, but I made the mistake. #71 is charged an incident but is NOT penalized for not taking EOLL on the start.


Lap 1 #28 blows 4th gear and gets rear-ended. Per RTR and MSR rules, drivers are NOT charged an incident for this BUT they must serve a 4-tire pit stop on the 2nd caution lap. #28 retired.


Lap 6 #22 into #017. #22 is charged w/ the incident and retired.


Lap 16 #27 into #103. #27 served his penalty.


Lap 17 #115 hooks #017 while under caution. #115 did not serve his penalty and is penalized 1 lap in the final standings. #017 is also given a warning to intentionally bumping #115 afterwards.


Lap 25 #27 into #103. This was #27's second incident and he retired.


Lap 32 #001 blown motor. No incident charged.


Lap 40 #009 tried to split the low lane car (#80) and the middle lane car (#99) and makes contact w/ #80 causing an incident. #80 moved up slightly and #009 moved down just as much, but the contact happened underneath the dashed lines. This is considered crowding/side drafting. #009 charged w/ incident and served his penalty.


Lap 46 #77 into #065. #77 served his penalty.


Lap 54 #08 into #75. #08 served his penalty.


Lap 64 #065 into #017. #065 served his penalty.


I will be contacting a few drivers privately to address what appears to be an issue with steering wheel settings. If anyone is having problems keeping their car straight or unable to keep it from drifting up too much, PLEASE get with me through the forums or Teamspeak. I will be on TS later today and most every week night next week.

Get 6 Incidents charged against you then you will be on a 1 & park.

1 --- #4, #5, #7, #22, #37, #43, #56, #65, #66, #89, #95, #02, #07, #003, #015, #017, #018, #024, #054, #102, #115, #162, #188
2 --- #2, #10, #12, #16, #20, #25, #49, #51, #54, #96, #08, #044, #083, #103
3 --- #33, #77, #90, #009, #065, #088
4 --- #27, #128
5 --- #71
6 --- #28


DNQ's for the next race: #80, #10, #5, #128 and #083.
1 and parks for next week: #28, #083 and #128




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There are only 2 left! Good luck to Doug Woolley and Paul Wolf. Paul must beat Doug twice to win this season's Bracket Series. If Doug beats Paul next week, Doug will be the champion.
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Re: SEASON 11 INCIDENT REPORTS

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timoshark1 wrote: December 14th, 2014, 7:21 pm RACE 14 12/11/14




lAP 6 #32 Luca Paci moves up on the backstretch making contact with the #10. The #32 retired.

Lap 20 There was a check-up in the front of the field causing drivers to abruptly swith lanes and reduce speed. The #103 and the #39 went to the wall and held it there but I think drivers in the middle to back of the lead draft saw this and made their own evasive moves. I looked at this for a long time and couldn't find fault in any driver's actions so this will be a "racin deal".

Lap 44 #018 David Lawson gets into the #024 on pit entry causing a multi-car incident. The #018 correctly served his penalty.

Lap 46 While still under caution the #49 Frank Divvens slows drastically while entering pit road causing the #51 to hit him. At the point of contact the #51 was doing 56 mph which is well within safe pit entry speed. It was possible that the #49 was eoll at the time and was waiting for the rest of the drivers to pass before he entered the pits. Even if this was the case, he should have been low against the wall to give room to those he was waiting on. This will go as an incident under caution on the #49. The #49 did not serve his penalty and will be penalized post race.

Lap 56 The #72 Len Ferguson moves up into the #088 while in the middle of a 3 wide situation. This incident was reviewed by another admin becuse I was involved, It was determined that the incident will be charged to the #72.
The #72 correctly served his penalty.

Lap 61 The #018 David Lawson bumps the #75 turning him down into the #128 causing an incident. This was the second incident on the #018. His scoring will be stopped at that point and he will be on a 1 and park next race.


ALL IN ALL THERE WAS SOME INCREDIBLE RACING AND WE ARE CERTAINLY MAKING STRIDES TO GET BACK TO THE GREAT RACING WE LOVE IN THE TALLY CHALLENGE SERIES. GREAT JOB EVERYONE!!!!

CONGRATS TO STEVIE MINSON ON HIS WIN!!!!

DNQs for next week are: 196, 16, 08, 018 AND 083.
1 and parks: 018, 083 and 28



Get 6 Incidents charged against you then you will be on a 1 & park.

1 --- #4, #5, #7, #22, #32, #37, #43, #56, #65, #66, #72, #89, #95, #02, #07, #003, #015, #017, #024, #054, #102, #115, #162, #188
2 --- #2, #10, #12, #16, #20, #25, #51, #54, #96, #08, #044, #083, #103
3 --- #33, #49, #77, #90, #009, #018, #065, #088
4 --- #27, #128
5 --- #71
6 --- #28
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Re: SEASON 11 INCIDENT REPORTS

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JoshM wrote: December 19th, 2014, 10:34 pm Race 15 12/18/14



Lap 9 #065 gets into the wall entering turn 3. #39 tried to slow but made contact w/ #065 causing an incident. Incident charged to #065 who retired.


Lap 29 #10 spins to avoid #20 who is entering the pits. Because #20 was still on the racing surface and had not gotten down to the non-racing portion of the track, this incident is on #20. He served his drive-thru penalty on the next lap.


Lap 31 #89 gets into #017 entering the pits, causing an incident. #89 served his drive-thru penalty on the following lap.


Lap 62 #07 spins #018; #07 served his drive-thru penalty the next lap as the caution did not come out.


Lap 65 #73 gets into #103. Multiple admins reviewed this incident and while #2 was close to #73's bumper, we did not see any contact that would have moved #73 up the track. Incident put on #73 and he is scored EOLL.



Congratulations our Season 11 co-champions- Chris Robbins and Jason Justis!

Also, congrats to Doug Woolley on winning this season's Bracket Series!
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Just a reminder we will be making some changes to the points system and possible to knockout qualifying. Please be sure to check the MSR rules section after the 1st of January to see the updates.

Thanks to EVERYONE who ran this season. A lot of new, talented, and respectful drivers. 92 different drivers ran this season. And we finished this season with one of the best races we've ever had on Thursdays. I'm already looking forward to next year!
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Re: SEASON 11 INCIDENT REPORTS

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jasonjustis wrote: December 20th, 2014, 8:20 am
JoshM wrote:Congratulations our Season 11 co-champions- Chris Robbins and Jason Justis!
Well ain't that neat.

Thanks for the season guys. I'd like to thank all the BP guys and guys from other leagues that stuck with me and were committed to help me out in the last few races this season, especially the last race. It showed that I have quite a few friends out there that I can enjoy racing with and are willing to work with me. Thanks for having my back.

Also got to give a shoutout to Chris Robbins' crew chief for spilling coffee on his calculator and telling the crew to only take one can of fuel on the money stop instead of a can and a half. As I mentioned during the post race cool down period, I definitely wasn't expecting the #08 to come down pit road again within the last few laps of the race. But because of that slip-up, Chris and I are now crowned co-champions. Do you know what that feels like? That's like trying to share the same food tray as you're walking along the buffet at the Golden Corral. Or something worse.

In all seriousness, thanks again for putting on the series. Look at what it's become, and to put full 42-car fields on the track in 5 out of the last 8 races of the season is just phenomenal. I don't think you guys imagined it growing this big, but it's a great problem to have, and with the new point system you will be implementing next year, all your future champions will be even further rewarded with such a difficult championship to win in NR2003.

And nice job everyone on the essentially one-caution season finale race!
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